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Poster: Kurt_Canning_2004 Date: Jul 28, 2004 2:45am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

Well I Think youre being very stereotypical as well as unfair. There is nothing wrong with Legal Immigrants, let me tell you why. Not all foreigners are here to deal drugs, some of them are acctually nice people. America's doors are open to any one. Now like I said. There should be stricter screening procesess envolved in Immigration. But telling people to leave just because of their heritage is moral insane.

You say "America for Americans!!!" Well my response to that is once they put they're feet down on the soil of this great country
They're Americans to Me.
Vote Kurt Canning/Jason Evans 2004!!!!

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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 28, 2004 4:37am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

just gonna consider evans canning and grimes trolls now...

you guys aren't expressing opinions you're just talking...

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Poster: Kurt_Canning_2004 Date: Jul 28, 2004 4:42am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

Well the difference between me and grimes is a completely different plank posistion. I want Legal immigration, he wants no immigration. If you want my opinion. Its that foreigners and americans are people alike. I have nothing against foreigners, though Grimes seems to. I want equal rights for Foreigners and Americans. Majoritys and Minoritys.

Thats my Opinion....And to be honest I too question your age if you call, me and anyone else for that matter trolls because of our veiws.

Vote Canning/Evans 2004!!!!

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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 28, 2004 2:27pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

You question my age? I'm 47, not that my age is relevant... if I were 3 wouldmy opinion be less valid? or 97? are you implying that old people (or young people, whatever your point is) have less valid opinions than young people? or old people? what's your point?


Apparently you didn't know :
'troll' is an internet/newsgroup term for folks that disrupt forums by creating arguments and expressing opinions with the intent of drawing others into it...

any one of you want to show yourselves as a viable candidate, worth paying attention to, tell me something about what you would do to take control of the government out of the hands of quasi-American corporations,and return it to the Citizens...
and what your position is on States' rights, and do you recognise the Sovereignty of Sovereign State Citizens?
Where do you stand on Diebold and their voting machines?

unless you ARE a troll, you should have some sort of opinion on those...

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Poster: Kurt_Canning_2004 Date: Jul 28, 2004 3:23pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

Well for one if people dont want to read my opinions i cant really help that.

But I would have to do a little more research on those things before i could give you my posistion, but as far as quasi-american companys controlling the country.

I think we should start taxing buissnesses, depending on where there stationed. For instance, If an energy company (Shell, Chevron) wants to move out of the US. We tax them more than if they were here. And I would also like to put an initial tax on companys just to leave the country.

This not only keeps such companys under control. But keeps it fair.
Vote Canning/Dwyer 2004!!!
PS: I wasnt saying your opinion was less valid....i was saying that referring to anyone as a troll seems childish....

This post was modified by Kurt_Canning_2004 on 2004-07-28 22:23:00

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Poster: jebay Date: Jan 27, 2005 5:19pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

The problem with taxing companies over-seas at a higher rate than at home, is that you are now killing an international economy. These international companies should be taxed the same. Are we trying to stop American corporations from going over-seas?

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Poster: hart noecker Date: Jan 27, 2005 5:25pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

Uh, yeah. American corps only go over seas to take advantage of weaker labor laws. They exploit foreign workers at the expense of American workers. Even take an econ class?

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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 28, 2004 3:56pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WhatIsaTroll

see the above for an amplified meaning, as if you didn't know what a troll is...

I don't see what's wrong with being 'childish' though, and as I said, you three aren't really expressing much opinion on the topic of 'election 2004' ... if you just want to chat, this isn't the place.

Why should a voter vote for you?

Tell me more about taxing companies to leave the USA...

Tell me why you consider Shell etc. to be "energy companies" instead of chemical companies...

How in your opinion does a government punish an extraterritorial corporation that has murdereda citizen, assaulted a citizen etc. .. what is an appropriate punishment , gven thata corporation cannot be jailed or executed?

Do you acknowlege a difference between vested rights, civil rights, civil liberties, and privelege?

Is, in your opinion, the USA "one nation", and is it "under God"? Is the USA a Republic? or a Federation?

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Poster: Kurt_Canning_2004 Date: Jul 29, 2004 12:26am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

Well as for buissness taxation. I would A)Tax buisnesses according to their location, for instance if they are out of the country they pay more buissness tax. B) I would charge an initial tax to leave the country.

About Shell, they make a product that provides us with energy, inefficent energy, but energy none the less. I honestly want to get the ball rolling on Solar and Hydrogen-Based Energy. And pur Shell and Exxon to work for the military.

I am a srtong beleiver in Civil Right's, as I beleive that we don't have as much as we deserve. From what I remember gun control was basicallly outlawed by the 2nd ammendment. So I don't understand why we can't bear arms at some places and states. The Seat Belt Law. Riddiculous! charging people 100-250$ for not wearing a seat belt. I remember a day when there wasn't a seatbelt to wear. There is a reason we are losing freedom. Safety. We give up more and more of our freedoms to feel "safe" well let me inform you on something. If we give up any more freedoms, living underthis goverment will not be safe.

And next time you want my opinion, just ask.
VOTE CANNING/DWYER 2004!!!!

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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 29, 2004 6:22am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

That's a great idea! have shell and exxon work for the military instead of the other way around...

How would you tax a corporation for leaving the country? Wouldn't they just dissolve the corporation and incorporate elsewhere? Maybe it would be better to tax the corporations for the wages they save by sending work to overseas sweatshops, that way the US government could get the profit from that exploitation.

Civil rights are actually rights given to the civitates (as opposed to Citizens) by the government...
in other words, liberties, priveleges, that can be taken back...

On the other hand, Vested Rights are those rights with which we are "Endowed by our Creator" as in the Constitution... Vested Rights, some of which are enumerated,in the Constitution, specifically, but not all... Vested Rights exist prior to government and inhere in each natural person natively, and are not given by government, but exist even absent governmental acknowledgement.

Do you acknowlege a distinction between civil rights and Vested Rights?

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Poster: jackgrimes2004 Date: Jul 30, 2004 1:44am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

A good way to stop the corporations from leaving the U.S. is to bust up these Labour Unions. The corporations and established chain stores are leaving this country because they can't make a profit anymore and they can't make a profit because of Unions. The solution is simple. You don't want the corporations and the heavy industy to fold up and leave, OUTLAW UNIONS!

VOTE FASCIST!!!!

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Poster: glenn Date: Jul 30, 2004 2:18am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

by fascist, do you mean Bush? if so, are you being facetious? I've already seen his job performance and work habits and was not even considering hiring him... I certainly didn't intend to hire him in the first place

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Poster: Kurt_Canning_2004 Date: Jul 29, 2004 11:41am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

My buissness tax platform is what some may call some what extreme. But its almost fail safe. as far as taxing companies for leaving the US. It can't really be considered a tax, more than it is an initial leaving fee. However, I'm not a big fan of coorporations moving countries and laying people off because of cheaper labor. I think buissness make a little too much money off of other peoples misfortune. If it was fair and morally sane, I would illegalize coorporate globalization, but it isnt, so i'm going to do the next best thing.

As far people being injured by coorporations and punishments for coorporations. I think fines would be the best way to go. A coorporation is seemingly never fined (the people that run it are) but never a coorporation in its whole.

I personally think we should take goverment out of the hands of these corporrations which it seems to be in. As far as campaign finance reform.I think we need to keep these big time companies out of politics. Most companies give large sums of money to both major party candidates. I Feel as though buissness has no place in politics

As for my states rights plan. I think we need to give alot of power back to the states. Such issues as gun control, speed limits,and the death penalty are all things the federals control. However I feel as though that those are all state issues. As well as I beleive Abortion should be a state issue.

And I do acknowledge a difference between "Invested" Rights and "Civil" Rights. I beleive that invested rights however are glorified civil rights. My plank posistion for Civil Rights is that, WE NEED MORE! The Goverment takes alot of our civil rights away for no apparent reasons. Prostitution is a good example. And screening certain people at the airports is another good example. Its time to give the goverment back to the people at least 50% of it.

I hope this has cleared up my platform a little.
VOTE CANNING/DWYER 2004!!!!

This post was modified by Kurt_Canning_2004 on 2004-07-29 18:27:06

This post was modified by Kurt_Canning_2004 on 2004-07-29 18:41:09

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Poster: jackgrimes2004 Date: Jul 30, 2004 1:14am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

Ditto. I agree with most of what you said as far as Civil Rights, states rights, gun ownership and the personal liberties of the individual are concerned. I don't understand why this fell in with my post about foriegners as it had nothing to do with foreign people whatsoever and my point was we should expel "all non-producers" from this country.

I also agree we must stop companies from leaving this country. We must also revive America's base heavy industry and redistribute the wealth to close the gulf between the haves and the have nots.

VOTE FASCIST 2004!!!!
ECONOMIC EQUALITY FOR ALL, FASCISM 04!!!!!

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Poster: Kurt_Canning_2004 Date: Jul 30, 2004 3:03pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: Foreigners Shouldn't Go

I'm not trying to be a "troll" but the reason this fell into your topic is because, A viable voter with the rigth to know asked for my veiws on particular issues. And I don't know about you jack, but im willing to answer anyones questions any time.